#29: Alex Nerney shares how to build blogs that bring in six and even seven figures of annual revenue.
Alex has a wealth of experience from growing two separate online businesses to well over a million dollars a year. And he has successfully coached and mentored multiple people to create their own six-figure blogs, with one of his students even making $45k per month from their website.
If you’re looking to start or grow your blog to six-figures and beyond, this is definitely an episode you won’t want to miss.
Podcast Episode Summary
In this episode you will learn:
- what inspired Alex to build his business from scratch, which involved leaving his job and living off eggs and rice every day;
- the approach that he uses to teach his students that made it possible for them to reach their goals quicker than most bloggers in the industry;
- the marketing strategy he used to scale his website Avocadu.com;
- how to make Pinterest work for your business;
- how to get out of the emotional phase of running your business;
- why you get more value from reading about people who run a brick and mortar empire; and
- how to move your business to the next level and accelerate your growth (from the “teenager phase”, to the “emotional phase”, to the “rocketship phase”).
The reason why we get quick student results isn’t technical. It’s philosophical. We concentrate on a day to day basis. We really concentrate on what is the number one thing right now that is going to impact my revenue the most. (07:58)
Let go of that ego and start to scale and realize that other people are sometimes better at you than the thing you think you’re good at. Scaling and putting the right people in the right positions to win is how you get to the next level. (22:06)
If you’re a content creator and business owner, you need to read from people who run brick and mortar stores. Don’t just learn from like the internet gurus. I think you get more value from those sorts of guys. (23:34)
You got to change who you are in order to get things that you want in life. (26:35)
- How to make money blogging: (https://createandgo.com/how-to-make-money-blogging/)
- How to start a blog: (https://createandgo.com/how-to-start-a-blog/)
Connect with Alex Nerney
Personal Website: (https://alexnerney.com/)
Create and Go: (https://createandgo.com/)
Create a Pro Website: (https://createaprowebsite.com/)
Ep. 29: Building a Six-Figure Blog with Alex Nerney
The reason why we get quick student results isn't technical. It's philosophical. And I am not a woo woo guy by any means, but it is very much a philosophy of what we teach people. And that philosophy stems from how we got success quickly and that is like we concentrate on a day to day basis. We ignore all of the BS and we really concentrate on what is the number one thing right now that is going to impact my revenue the most. And it is this philosophical thought that we train our people to continually think about over and over and over again. And when it does, it helps burn away all of the time that is spent on things that don't matter.
That was Alex Nerney, entrepreneur and content creator. And in this episode, he shares how to build blogs that bring in six and even seven figures of annual revenue. Alex has a wealth of experience from growing two separate online businesses to well over a million dollars a year. And he has successfully coached and mentored multiple people to create their own six-figure blogs, with one of his students even making $45,000 per month from their website. If you're looking to start or grow your blog to six figures and beyond, this is definitely an episode you won't want to miss. So let's jump in.
You're listening to the Content Heroes podcast, where entrepreneurs, marketers, and creatives share how they build profitable businesses on their own terms by creating content online. And now your host, Josiah Goff.
Welcome to Content Heroes, everyone. I'm here with Alex Nerney, who is an entrepreneur and content creator who has built multiple million dollar websites. Alex, I'm so pumped for our conversation. Thanks for being on the show today.
We're gonna have some fun today, Josiah. Let's do this.
So let's jump into your origin story and tell us how you got started in content creation.
Yeah, for sure. So it was back in 2015, I was working as a personal trainer. And was just pretty unhappy with like where life I felt like was leading. I was waking up at 5:00 AM, four o'clock sometimes to train people and to teach people how to workout. And I originally thought, Oh man, this is awesome. I love to work out. This is going to be great. And what ended up happening is I ended up training people who hate working out because those are people who get personal trainer. I'm training really rich people out in Dallas. They're paying lots of money cause at the time I knew some amount of marketing, at least more than your average personal trainer, but I'm teaching a bunch of people who hate to work out. And trying to get them to like to work out. And it just wasn't that great. I was doing well but things weren't where I wanted them to be. I went to a conference on entrepreneurship, was always interested in it. I'd read the Four Hour Work Week at a young age and so I always had some sort of like inkling about it. But what happened was I went to this conference and got re-inspired. And I was like, you what? I need to hit this thing again. I need to try this thing against... I had built websites and tried this before, started working on another blog, a health and wellness blog. This one failed miserably the end of the day and there's lots of reasons for that, but I'll definitely just cover the 50,000 foot overview right now. Started this website and was working on it and my girlfriend at the time who is now my ex and we're business partners. And we started working on it together. She saw me working on it, I believe I was editing an image. She was like, that is terrible and just really like helped move the chair over and was like, let me try to do some of this stuff. That started us building websites. And the first one failed miserably, but the second one we started to get some traction and started to get some visitors and readers and it was called Avocadu.com. Whole principle was just a health and wellness website trying to get ad traffic essentially by targeting like really high level keywords. It started to get some traction and we kind of hit this inflection point of do we go all in with this? You know, like do we give it a shot? And so we gave ourselves a year. We said, all right, we're going to quit our jobs because we weren't getting enough time in on the website. We didn't feel like we were actually pursuing it hard enough. And I, we're like, we'll quit our jobs and work for a year at it. So we quit our jobs, we sold all our things, we ate eggs and rice every day, like literally eggs and rice every day. I'm not sure I can eat it today just because it's like, I did actually have it like a year and a half ago and it just like if you've ever had something that's like takes you like back into like that moment. That's what eating eggs and rice for me does. It like takes me back to being broke and like working like on this website and stress eating all the time. But so we started building this website. And this website, when we go full-time, things really start to pick up or we start really doubling our revenue. First off. That meant like your first a hundred dollars but then that turned to $200, then $400, then $800, then to $1600, we had a four grand month, eight grand month, and then we had a nine grand month, and then we had a 40 grand month. And during that time you don't consider yourself an entrepreneur, you're just building some weird website. And we working on it working on, working on, built this up and then at some point we're like making 20 grand, 30 grand a month on average and traveling the world. And like we're living out in Nicaragua and we're pretty much living that like pipe dream that everybody like talks about. And we both saw like everybody talking about building that lifestyle and I just frankly didn't agree with a lot of how people were pitching it. And I was like we want to start something different. We want to start something, another website teaching people how to make money because we just felt like we had built it from scratch and really we weren't coming at it from the aspect of like just somebody teaching how to make money, who doesn't know how to make money is like we were teaching it because like this is something we did. Like we really built this thing. And I just felt like that authentic voice was something that we could bring to the table. Obviously, we built a website because we knew we'd make a lot of money with it, but I'm not ever trying to hide behind that, but yeah, so then we built another brand called Create and Go, that's where we teach online business owners or bloggers essentially how to make more money blogging, how to build a six figure blog and live life on their terms. We've had tremendous success. You know, we do over a hundred grand a month on that website, but way more important than that is our student successes. We've had multiple, multiple students now reach well over 10 grand. Our best student is at 45 grand a month. Yeah. And it's just been a wild ride. So.
That's a little bit of the overview.
That's so awesome. I've been digging through your YouTube channel and the case studies that you've been putting out over the last few weeks. And I don't say this lightly, I've been pretty blown away by what some of your students even have been able to achieve. At my agency, Inigo, you know, we work with a lot of six figure bloggers and everyone that I've talked to in the space, it's like yeah, you know, plan on getting, maybe being able to quit your job within three years. And it just takes a lot of work a long time, you know, it's a slow, slow boat to China. So just dig in and prepare for that. You know, and I'm listening to interviews with your students and you're a testament to this as well. Like you know, people are scaling up to six figures in their first year. That's amazing. And so obviously there's something there and it is possible. So can we dive into what that looks like? Like, how do you become a six figure blogger and you know, is it really possible to do it in a year or less?
So I wouldn't say like it is a typical route. I would say that like probably people are talking about it, the more typical is like you need like three years. We talk about this for a variety of reasons. There's just certain skill sets that if you're starting from scratch, you don't know how to work use WordPress. And so it becomes a massive hurdle just to be able to use WordPress efficiently enough that you're not wasting all of your time on WordPress, right? So for some people that tends to be the case. But the reason why we get quick student results isn't technical. It's philosophical. And I am not a woo woo guy by any means, but it is very much a philosophy of what we teach people. And that philosophy stems from how we got success quickly. And that is like we concentrate on a day to day basis. We ignore all of the BS and we really concentrate on what is the number one thing right now that is going to impact my revenue the most. And it is this philosophical thought that we train our people to continually think about over and over and over again. And when it does, it helps burn away all of the time that is spent on things that don't matter. Everybody thinks like your Instagram matters. And I got to tell you, we got like 2,000 followers on Instagram and we don't post and our engagement sucks. But we are very aware of like where our money comes from and what is producing the most money and what is changing our lives. That's what we've been helping people to do. Understand that principle. Now there's technical reasons why as well and we can get into those. But the number one thing is philosophical.
Oh, I love that. That is right on the money, too. Cause like I see that so much and I think a big reason for this is that stuff that is more tangible. It's kind of right in front of your face that you can knock out. Like that doesn't take a lot of brain power, but it makes you feel good cause you feel like you're getting stuff done. But then you just, end up doing a lot of things, but you're not necessarily making progress in your business. And what takes a lot more mental capacity is that strategy and that honing in of like, what is the one thing? Like how do I know what that one thing is and how do I maximize that? That takes a lot more work. And so, you know, our brains are wired to not want to do that part and want to do the easy stuff.
Oh man. In and out of the park. It's the proverbial meditation retreat of finding yourself. So people struggle in life with their purpose, right? They struggle with finding the thing that they should be doing and they don't understand that the problem is, problem of action. It's not a problem of like you can't solve it in your brain. You have to do things and feel out how those things feel to you to find your purpose, find your passion, right. And so what they do is they do something that feels like they're moving forward. They go do Ayahuasca or they go do a meditation retreat. When would the real hard thing that they need to get done is like taking tons of action towards like something or creating something or building something. They're just putting things in front of the most important thing that they need to do. But I see it all the time, too. So it's always good to hear another business owner like get it, you know what I mean?
Yeah, totally. So can we dig into some of the technical side? Like how did you go about that growth for Avocadu?
A lot of it had to do with like trying everything and seeing what stuck. There's again a few things in particular like okay, we built automated email funnels and that really helps you scale your growth. Like, that's definitely a technical tip. It's like once you get really good at email marketing and incorporating your story in the email marketing, you can sell a lot because like that automated growth allows you to scale up instead of creating like thousands of blog posts which takes tons of time. Yes, so we started focusing in on Pinterest. Pinterest was a big deal at the time. We saw that people were getting traffic from Pinterest, but most of the content on there wasn't very good. And really what we concentrate on was like how do we make it better? We made content and we scaled it up to making the content better on the platform. And so we're building up Avocadu and for awhile we were just publishing, publishing articles, publishing, all sorts of stuff, but Pinterest really was like what scaled the growth at the beginning because it allowed for a lot of organic traffic. It has a sort of automated feel to it where like again, when you have your email marketing funnel setup, you don't have to continually think about it. It's just there. It's just there performing and doing what it needs to do. Same with Pinterest. Pinterest is one of those things and it has been where it can be very automated, where it can be very, it's just happening and running in the background. Those two things combined with having a really good program were the things that allowed us that growth. Also when you're like growing at the beginning, everything's a stepping stone. So it's like the first thing is like the first money we made was Amazon affiliate money. Everybody knows about this. This is not some sort of mystery. And we were making like, you know, $5 a day or something like that. Not life changing money but enough to like motivate the hell out of you. And then we stepped that up to ClickBank marketplace, you know, like a seedier like affiliate marketing place, you know, and we started to sell product there. And then we realized, you know, we really don't want to sell these crappy products or the product or like, we'll make our own. Right. And so like it was a natural progression forward of looking at the metrics of the website. And again, asking that question constantly of like, what is the number one thing I can do right now to grow my revenue ignoring everything else. And like we just kept asking that and it just kept scaling forward.
Oh, I love it. So I really want to dig into the Pinterest side of things. Part of that's a little bit selfish because I've kind of become obsessed recently with Pinterest and learning how to make all of that work. And as I've been planning out Content Heroes and then, you know, the Inigo blog and my own kind of personal platform and thinking through content and all that stuff, looking at just how much work, how much work it takes to see really good results and how long it takes on the Google SEO side of things, which you know, you definitely want to have that as part of your strategy. But that just, I don't know if there's something about how my brain is wired that just seems like so much work to me.
So as I was exploring other ways, other strategies for growth, came across Pinterest and came across a lot of your videos and, it seems like a better fit for what I'm trying to do. So I would love to dig into that and pull out some of your Pinterest hacks and tips and all of that that we can share with the audience.
Yeah, for sure. So an interesting thing is that Pinterest is going right now through a very, very, very big change.
For awhile, Pinterest was dumb Google. Let's circle back. Let's go to Facebook, right? Facebook had tons of organic reach back in the day, right? Everybody knows like there was this beautiful time in Facebook where you could just get all this free traffic to your website. Life was great. They took that traffic away. The problem inherently with social media like Instagram, Facebook, etc, for marketers, is that there's not a jQuery search engine. The user base doesn't use it like they do a Google or a YouTube where they are looking to solve problems. They are looking to be entertained on those platforms versus trying to solve a problem. When you're trying to solve a problem, very easy to make money. When you're just trying to look at memes, very difficult to make money. And so that's what made Pinterest very different than others and still makes it very different than others today. So originally what you would do is you'd set up automated boards and automated pins and you would re-pin content constantly. This content had a potential to go very viral because it was both a place where people would search for, how do I lose weight, or how do I make money, or you know, whatever that topic is, problem that you're solving. But also it had a share-ability feature where people would have the ability to re-pin something on their board and other people can see it. So it was just, it's just kind of this beautiful marketplace as well as like 75% to I think 90% of marketers that get into Pinterest give up because it can be a confusing platform. And also, I think most marketers are guys. And I think most marketers that have that dude focus, they're just like, ah, I just don't understand. And part of the problem there can be that when it's easy for me to understand YouTube cause I love YouTube and I'm on YouTube all day, right? Most guys aren't on Pinterest all day. So like they look at it and it's confusing to them and they don't understand why someone would do something, like on the platform inherently. And so it can be difficult. That being said, 80% of Pinterest users I think make like over a hundred grand or something like that. It's some crazy statistic. It's a shopping platform where like people shop all the time. I believe it doesn't bring in as much revenue as Facebook, but it's like almost comparable with the amount of money people spend on it. And for these reasons, Pinterest is an insane platform to get into. And the opportunity is insane right now. I don't want to explain why. Because before the algorithm was very focused on re-pinning and sharing a ton of content. Pinterest just changed that. I mean we're talking like a week ago to being a, Hey, we only want you to pin one image and then we want you to not recreate or re-pin that image ever. And you need to make an entirely new image. Now you might not understand that if you're not on Pinterest or are anything, but what I'm telling you right now is the opportunity is insanely high because this is, it's added another barrier to entry to people to understanding Pinterest. Now our success and our results speak for themselves. You know, we get well over 200k to 300,000 visitors a month from Pinterest. Like it's an insanely high like traffic source for us because we've spent the time to master the platform and truly master it. But yeah, it's an insane marketing opportunity. Most marketers are going to give up on it though and that just, that means more goodness for the ones who are willing to stick in there.
Awesome. If I'm wanting to get into Pinterest and I'm just starting out, what are the key things I need to know to do well on the platform?
Give you a quick like few steps, number one, go on the platform and see if you can find your people on there or your like competitors or things like that and find examples of success. Like everything, if I run a tech blog, I'm not going to get on Pinterest. These are not like tech users. If I am trying to build a blogging business, hell yeah. You know Pinterest is, Pinterest is great. I think identifying and being aware of like some form of competition that's doing well on the platform would be huge. The next thing to do, especially if you're somebody who doesn't know Pinterest at all, there are tons of YouTube videos and we have a few, like if you type in Create and Go Pinterest where it really breaks down goes from like I have no idea what this is all the way to okay I kind of understand a little bit of it. And then honestly meant the next thing to do would be to use the platform. You are not going to inherently understand it if you don't actually use it. And like as a guy, like there's some awesome, I find great design tips, I find great things on motorcycles, super into that. Find all sorts of cool content on there for travel tips and things like that that I would say get used to using the platform because then you'll start to understand like, Oh this is why people use it. This is how we can get started. I'd say that those are probably the best places, like where you can start building out from scratch, understand and accept though that Pinterest, it's going to take you a month or two just to get used to. If you think that you can just go and hand off Pinterest to somebody and be like, make me a Pinterest account and get me successful. Sorry, not going to be fun for you. You're going to have to put in the work like anything in life, but the rewards I'm telling you like for the automated traffic or insight.
That's awesome. So Alex, I'm curious what advice you would have for people who've gotten through that kind of initial phase and and they're looking to level up in their business and move to the next phase and really start to accelerate their growth. What kind of advice would you have for them?
Yeah, so we went through like a series of phases with like getting success and like the first phase is like you're just trying to learn all the skills around you, right? We brought up WordPress and I just think it's a good example of something that like if you've never used the platform, you're going to sit back there and be like, what is going on? Like how do people even use this? Like it's not inherent, at least not for myself. And you know, so it's gonna take some time to build up those skills. Once you have the skills though, the next steps are like, you will experience some amount of growth. But here's this phase that a lot of people get into as the teenager phase. It's where like one day your business is doing amazing, you've sealed this amazing client, doing well, blah blah blah and then you've spent two weeks and nobody emails you and you don't get another client and you're wondering is this thing, is this thing alive or dead? Like how am I to do this? And then the next week is like something amazing happens and you spend this time in this like just emotional like up and down. It's a poor way to make decisions. You start to make decisions based on like where you're emotionally at. And so like the best things to do, first off, like we got out of that emotional phase by starting another business, by like supplementing our income with another revenue stream. That really took a lot of the emotional decisions out of things. That was a big, big thing for us. But the next thing is the ability to scale and automate what you do and automate your processes. That is huge. A big resource that I give you guys is like go read Sam Walton's book, go read The Building of Walmart. People look at Walmart and just think like, Oh, like this just happened. Like no. There was an insane amount of competition, but what took him to the next level? He had this mind for systematizing things. And that's where you have to, you have to move from being this creator and being this person. You know, this rogue like entrepreneur into like scaling and systematizing what you do, which can be a tough process because sometimes it's almost like an identity issue. You're like, like, no, I'm like this cool. I created this business man. Like I'm like this person. But really in reality to get to the next level, it's like you gotta let go of that ego and start to scale and realize that other people are sometimes better at you than the thing you think you're good at. I had that experience when I was young. I was a writer for this website called the Bro Bible. And I would write health and fitness articles for the Bro Bible in a bro tone. I thought I was hot stuff, man. I was writing these articles. They're getting tons of views. I was like, dude, I'm awesome. And then I realized I've spent all this time doing it and I was like, what if I like hired like some guy to like source some of the content. It's a guy named Ryan Law. I haven't talked to him in years. I'm sure he's out there somewhere. I hired him to like come in like create some of the content, right. He comes in, he creates few kinds of articles for me. I was like, wow, this is, this is pretty good. And then like he creates a few more as like this is very good and then he creates some more and I'm like, he's better at writing than me. It was just like, Oh man, like this guy is like, he's funnier than me. He's more clever than I am. And it was this really humbling process of thinking like, I'm awesome. I'm going to be able to do everything to understanding like, no, there are people out there that are better at what you think you're good at. Scaling and putting those people in the right positions to win is how you get to the next level, which would be, we call it like the rocket ship phase, but it's where you're able to just concentrate on the most important things and the rest of your business runs behind you. It just allows for an insane amount of growth. That's what I would say. It's like understand scaling and automation. Read some books on the topic, like understand that especially if you're a content creator and business owner, you need to read from people who run like brick and mortar stores and stuff like that. Don't just learn from like the internet gurus. I think you get more value from from those sorts of guys.
Yeah, totally. So Alex, before we started recording, you had mentioned that you have shifted focus a bit in business to really start building your own personal platform. I'm really curious what made you make that decision and what that looks like?
So we've run into some hurdles with Create and Go. I own two websites, $2 million websites right now. Man, that sounds like the worst humblebrag ever. I don't have to reframe the way to pitch that because I don't not like the way that sounds. Anyway, I've started to do a couple of successful internet businesses and I've just realized we've hit this weird hurdle and that weird hurdle is that nobody knows who the crap I am. They kind of do. But like only if you're like a blogger and this very specific space like do you know who I am? And there's just these doors. You realize like when you're scaling and automating and growing a business, there's these doors that you hit and that I wouldn't hit them so hard if like I had some sort of personal brand with like a bigger like Instagram following or a bigger YouTube following, which are things like I care about, but not really, if that makes sense. And so the idea here is that by growing the personal brand, getting through those doors will be easier. Getting high domain authority backlinks if you're internet entrepreneur, that's pretty well known is going to be a lot easier than showing up as a blogging business. And that's just the truth of it. And so like I've kinda hit that next phase of what do I need to do? And actually building a personal brand is the next one. So I've actually moved in just a couple days ago. Pretty exciting. I've moved in one of my employees, but also a good friend who's kind of be my personal assistant and now we're living together. They're going to start building this thing out, going to hire a full-time video editor, a videographer really had liked the YouTube channel really hard and do some Instagram work and try to grow the personal brand as a way to not only leverage like future projects that I do, but to take the projects that I have and extend them even further. So I'm excited, man. Like I haven't felt like this sort of path in a long time. I think sometimes you hit a point in business where like it's really automated and just not as fired up. But dude, I'm sparked up right now. Like I'm, I'm feeling good. So, yeah.
That's awesome. Yeah, I'm excited too. I'm really excited to see you know, what you put together and like the value that you bring from your own personal platform. I think that's going to be really great.
Yeah, it's going to be fun. So like a lot of it will be like, I love YouTube, like I said like probably a few times. So YouTube is my jam. So really excited about like I'll be creating like a lot of entrepreneurship type content on there and hopefully it comes from a good place. If somebody owns like a couple of internet businesses. Yeah. It just feel like it can really help people. It'll be also on mindset just because mindset's such a such a big part of this that most people don't understand. You gotta like change who you are in order to get things that you want in life. And a lot of that comes with like personal development and just understanding like things can be different. I remember the Four Hour Work Week, people crap on that book all the time. And like, and I, and when I read it back in 2010, there was such a wave of relief because I felt like, Oh my gosh, there's something else I can do. Cause I always felt like the weird black sheep trying new things. But then this guy came through and was like, nah, you can do this. Like you can just run an internet business and live in a, where'd he live in Argentina and dance with women and all that stuff. And I'm like, well this sounds great. This sounds awesome. It's such a big deal to me. But I would love to also like use a personal brand to like have that sort of impact on others. But also I want it to just be very authentic voice is what I believe in more than anything in this day and age of internet BS. So that's where I'm going to come from and I'm excited and we're going to grow, we're going to grow up, man. We're going to make this thing happen.
Oh that's so great. I'm really excited too, man. So this has been an awesome conversation. I really appreciate you coming on the show. Before we hop off here, can you just share with everyone where they can find you online?
Yeah, for sure. So all right. I will start with myself and then I'll go through the websites that I have. Just like the right person for the right place. Honestly. Like so my personal websites, it's building out like blog posts and stuff like that. It's AlexNerney.com. Nerney so it's like N-E-R-N-E-Y, in high school my prom date made a sign that said NER and then like knee, like your knee and like held it up and it was like, that is hilarious. It just sounds like that. So AlexNerney.com. If you are interested in building a blogging business and you are interested in starting and like building from scratch or scaling up to six figures, createandgo.com. I'm a big believer in like don't listen to me, listen to my students. The measure of what I do is like on their success and not as much on mine. We've had a ton of success, but you've probably been burned in the past. So like look at them and you know, interact with some of them, look at our YouTube channel, look at our comments like these types of things. We're very real and we will always shoot you straight createandgo.com for bloggers on another website called Create a Pro Website, which is a YouTube channel website, which is just about building more of like your very first website and understanding like, Hey, here's how to build it. Here's how to make it from scratch. And the final place of all of these places, I know you're probably listening to this you're in your car or something like that right now. You might not be at a computer. You can just follow me on like the 'gram and I'm going to start like posting more stuff on there. But it's @AlexNerney, love to interact with you guys. If you hear the podcasts, I think one of my favorite things, I went on a podcast recently on it and some people like were sliding in the DMs asking questions, I do like to help people. So yeah, let's do this thing, man. I really appreciate you having me, Josiah.
Awesome. Yeah, and we'll be sure to link all that stuff up in the show notes. So for everyone listening, you can go there and click on the links. Definitely reach out to Alex. He's an awesome dude, this has been so great. I love this conversation. Thanks again for being on the show. I really appreciate it.
All right man, take it easy.
Go be a hero, everyone.
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